.-{2F4OV}-. :
It’s doesn’t accelerate very fast from zero km/u… what is your complete variomatic setup?

I don’t want to start very fast from zero km/h because in a race track you start one time…I prefere set the clutch to have a right traction in turn in a track race. My Bravo is not make to a drag race.
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pepko :
even in HD the quality is bad 😛

Sorry…I have not a cam…

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QZMKDtHxcdM[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkyATxwJbYY[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q8CJsWW0o0I[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQA9h_LRdHk[/url]

Edjuh :
Luca and raffaello always get to play with the nice toys:)

No movies?

No, no movies I think…

.-{2F4OV}-. :
Very nice Pegano! Did you welt the case to the subframe or how is it fixed? How do you unmount or multivar?

Why didn’t you use a 24mm carburator?

What’s next? Maybe you can fabricate a custom inlet (28/30mm) with 28mm Keihin or 30mm TMX kart carburator. With Stage 6 V-force AM6 reedvalve=) But I think it will be overkill for…

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TimoO_ :
Waw great moped, looks fast, with great parts!

The case around the malossi variomatic, does it has a bearing in it or what is it?

Very nice! Can’t say no more

The case have a bearing…

See here [url]http://www.ciaocrossclub.it/root/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=47097[/url]

hansieb :
Looking forward to see movies of “it” on the track!:worshippy

Me too ehehehheheheheh

hansieb :
This is one mean ass machine!

[url]http://www.ciaocrossclub.it/root/discoremoto/pagano/Bravo%20Persiana/037.JPG[/url]

P.s did you already drove it ?

Tnx…

Yeah, I have drove…in street…LOL
On 21 Sunday I’ll go to a circuit…

[size=150]Data sheet[/size]

Cycling:
– Frame Piaggio Bravo;
– Fork Aprlia RS 50 from 2006…[Lees meer]

.-{2F4OV}-. :
Does the 12V screwdriver provides enough torque? That’s better:D

Look at my perso for photos of the repaired Heuvel Racing Clutch!

I use the 12v or 18v screwdriver of Wurth.
About your clutch…What are the screed??

RiPe :
Thanks for the list.
So I understand you’re using the original 13.4mm malossi belt for Vespa Bravo? And that works well with the clutch?
Maybe if you look for car belts, they have more different sizes.

But if the width of the belt is too small, it can’t reach the outer diameter of the clutch-pulleys. So the variation is reduced.
On t…

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RiPe :
Nice clutch, the development of your moped never stops 😀
What size of belt do you use? (width)
Minarelli has 16,5mm but how does that combine with the vespa malossi variator?
Or does the 13mm belt match with the clutch?
(I’m planning to mount a minarelli clutch on my moped too)

Well…look at this list

ALTEZZA = SPESSORE =…[Lees meer]

ArvidW :
Really lovely to see this. The sprocatti scooter cilinder does have some amazing transfer chanels, they are enormous (Too bad it doesn’t fit the engine case not very well)

Are you going racing with this bike or sprinting ? I Think that If you do your homework right (and you certainly do:D) the bike can be a winner in a straight line…

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.-{2F4OV}-. :
Hey Pegano!

How do you wanna start your moped? Because there are no start segments in the minarelli clutch…

I suppose with a 230V drill on your crank;)

No 230V drill, but a 12V screwdriver with a little modification on the pivot.

Start gear with variator Malossi Multivar per moped

Start gear with variator Malossi Multivar for Minarelli.

Start gear with variator Malossi Multivar MHR for Minarelli.

Start gear with variator Malossi Multivar Over-range for Minarelli.

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The primary gear of a Minarelli with head of a primary gear Malossi for moped. And its covercase modify.

Stage6 clutch for Minarelli modify for the clockwise movement

The totaly transmission:
– Primary gear of a Minarelli with head of a…[Lees meer]

hansieb :
Already sounds scary, when it hits its powerband 😀

This afternoon I try the red spring on pulley and the Malossi gear.
Now I have the yellow spings on clutch, yellow spring on pulley and CIF/RMS gear.

[youtube=INuxhviv5Fo]

SpeedDemon :
You mean he doesn’t powerwheely?

A bit of powerwheely but look his arms…then he have a driving position and a weith distribution completely different from mine.

Edjuh :
Your culla/subrame is still the hottest ever.

Can we expect a trackside video next spring?

This is the circuit where I’ll go.

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8OzY0hjc2g[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Fs7USLkRis[/url]

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=orDiGjPjeoI[/url]

hansieb :
I think you need all the weight on the front part of your moped. You have cilinder with a potential of 20-24 or more bhp. This causes you to autowheely instant, if i look to your frame i have my doubts of the weight distribution.

You need a really low moped or one which is lowered down at the front to even drive it…

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Martijnvanheerde :
Doesn’t matter, its nice(H) Whats that for fork?

Aprilia RS 50 2006

You like?

Martijnvanheerde :
On the frond end?

On the forks?

peter-jaap :
can you make a movie 😛 of the vespa

Maybe saturday I can make a movie.

Tonni :
I really don’t like the fueltank, it doesn’t follow the shape of the frame. The original looks way better.

I do respect all the craftsmanship that’s in this bike:thumb

I wanted to use the original tank, but where put the radiator?

TimoO_ :
That’s fast. Can you give me a link to some of the machines taking part in these sprints?

[url]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YguK8ZRw8B8[/url]

You like??

hansieb :
Nice ! and also a stuffer in it.

How much gasoline can you maximum get in the crankcase?

Do you want to know the carburator o the increase the volume of the chamber crank?

Reed valve by Stage6 with valve Malossi VL14 o V-force3…

hansieb :
The problem with the normal ignition is the amount of RPM’s which it cant make.

On fast scooters people also change their ignition into an rotor one, because of the rpm limit.
I dont know the max RPM of TCR , but i guess it is something like a 2F4R which can handle about 15000 RPM.

A normal ignition cant handle so much rpm.…

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TimoO_ :
And I think an internal rotary ignition will increase the top RPM? But, I think your Bravo is made for circuit racing, isn’t it? For this purpose this simonini ignition is good I guess… An internal rotary ignition could be better for drag racing, but I don’t think you made your bravo for this.

But I do think your Bravo could use a…

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ArvidW :
Too light ?

Once i drove without a flywheel and only a battery powered ignition, this was amazin with a good variomatic from a standing start.

My citta with an original tuned cilinder started to wheely, it has never done that with a flywheel. The only downside was the lack of aiflow for cooling the engine and ofcourse the batery…

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This TCR is bore 47,6 stroke 45.
Now word in stroke 46.

The studs of simonini crankshaft have 51mm of wheelbase, while the cylinder Minarelli have 50mm of wheelbase.
I have enlarged the hole on the cylinder from 7mm to 8mm.

thei :
its al very very nice my compliments
but do you have pictures of the simonini carter without the tcr cilinder ?
so cool that you can make it al by yourself
greetz theike

I’ve not a photo inside the carter.
To put this cylinder I’ve work not much…the problem is adjust the stroke, but to fit this one is very easy.
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Rebel :
Wow indeed how nice

i am wondering you got yourself an rs125 front suspension right..

But what wheel is in it? is that from an rs to?
And then how did you fix de rearwheel in?

Do you have pictures on how much you needed to welded on to the simonini carter?
en maybe of the crankshaft adjustments i am really curious becouse…

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thei :
can you test howmutch horse powers that thing haves

Yes, I can.

VoNcKjE :
do you sel your old engine?
and i love your bravo.
you have very thing on it:D

The old engine is on my Ciao now.