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  • #144339

    Piet30
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      Hi,
      got a Nederlands Ciao frame with paperwork.

      Is that all you have attached to your Ciao when driving legal on the roads?

      Is my paperwork for a Ciao driving without helmet and is the build year 1999?

      #146174

      joostv23
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        This is from a belgian ciao. (notice the dutch and french words)

        In holland we have different papers.

        #146175

        Tonni
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          Hey,

          That’s a Belgium paper. It looks like this is for a 25 km moped indeed.

          Our Papers look a bit different…

          Example:

          I came, I saw, and I forgot what I was doing...
          #146176

          Piet30
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            ah, ok. Would it be ok to drive with Belgium papers in Nederland?

            #146177

            joostv23
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              Piet30 :
              ah, ok. Would it be ok to drive with Belgium papers in Nederland?

              Yes i think so, but also with german papers right?

              And i believe that ”klasse A” stands for no helmet.

              Can someone correct me if im wrong?

              #146178

              Piet30
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                yes, I would get German insurance for that frame and then like to drive it in Nederland if possible.

                #146173

                CiaoGutti
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                  joostv23 :

                  Piet30 :
                  ah, ok. Would it be ok to drive with Belgium papers in Nederland?

                  Yes i think so, but also with german papers right?

                  And i believe that ”klasse A” stands for no helmet.

                  Can someone correct me if im wrong?

                  Klasse is not without helmets,
                  helmets must be ware on every moped in belgium

                  #146179

                  Piet30
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                    yes, but if I drive this 25km/h Belgium frame in Nederland, do I still need a helmet?

                    #146180

                    joostv23
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                      I dont think the dutch police know that in belgoum everyone needs a helmet so i would try it if your moped doesnt drive faster then 25km/h.

                      #145760

                      BDW
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                        indeed,that s a 25km/h paper,if you have a frame with 45km/h papers,i’m interested!,thats klasse b

                        #145565

                        Jelle
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                          Piet30 :
                          yes, but if I drive this 25km/h Belgium frame in Nederland, do I still need a helmet?

                          I believe you have to wear a helmet then…

                          #145564

                          pepko
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                            @ jelle: this is not true. as you cross the border, you need to adjust yourself to the rules of the country you are in at that moment. this meens that if you drive a snorbrommer (A-klasse) you are equal to a dutch moped with blue license plates. So you don’t have to wear a helmet.

                            and jelle, for example: if you cross the border with your citta, you must wear a helmet because those are the belgium rules. you understand?

                            gr. pepko

                            edit: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromfiets

                            #145563

                            tnerual
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                              pepko :
                              @ jelle: this is not true. as you cross the border, you need to adjust yourself to the rules of the country you are in at that moment. this meens that if you drive a snorbrommer (A-klasse) you are equal to a dutch moped with blue license plates. So you don’t have to wear a helmet.

                              and jelle, for example: if you cross the border with your citta, you must wear a helmet because those are the belgium rules. you understand?

                              gr. pepko

                              edit: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bromfiets

                              Completely correct! But as said, in Belgium every rider needs to wear a helmet..
                              To be sure that policemen don’t become suspicious on your moped, i advise you to put a D from Deutschland, on it.. OTherwise they will be astonsihed to see a moped without a plate…( Of course when you are riding it in Holland,I mean)

                              #146520

                              Coopering
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                                I have a questions that fits well here.
                                I want to buy a dutch moped with has still a licence plate. what do I have to do? do your insurance ran off automatically like in germany? In Germany you insure a moped for a year and on 31.2 every year the insurance runs off…

                                I hope you understood what I mean.

                                #146521

                                Wilk1985
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                                  I dont know if its the same with every insurance company but my company automatically extends the Insurance when it rans off.

                                  So the owner should inform the Insurance company when he wants to end the Insurance.

                                  If the moped has a Dutch license plate, the owner has to end the registration with the RDW himself. Because every moped that has a license plate MUST be insured. If not you get a 300+ € fine.

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