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  • #190966

    KennyVespa
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      Thats F*cking Good Stuff!!!!

      #190967

      .-{2F4OV}-.

        He already thought about that..
        But his problem is that he lives in Sweden and he doesn’t understand much of that language…
        So he don’t know how to get a Sprocattikit to Sweden!!
        And ofcourse the amount of money!! If he wants to buy a Malo engine, it doesn’t mean that he also got money for a Sprocatti kit. This is way more expensive:D

        Btw: If I were u I would buy a malo engine.. en put a 19/20 mm dell’orto carb on it:D
        Think it’s way faster, especially with the DEPS cilinder:D

        #190968

        Millen
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          And i have another question about the 47mm deps cilinder head.
          How do i do to setup the decompressin valve in the cilinder head. Its a little bit smaller and not like the original one.
          If someone knows what i mean. i need a picture of the cilinder head with the decompression valve “installed”.

          #190969

          Vespaflappie
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            Millen :
            And i have another question about the 47mm deps cilinder head.
            How do i do to setup the decompressin valve in the cilinder head. Its a little bit smaller and not like the original one.
            If someone knows what i mean. i need a picture of the cilinder head with the decompression valve “installed”.

            It’s a special decompression, you need to modifie the original one,the malossi is a lot flatter….

            #190970

            November Rain
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              dont have another real photo.. dunno if you wanted a photo from the front side..? Cos i dont have one..

              just put a throttle “cable” behind it. If that is too thin (which was in my case) you put the “nipple” (nippel voor als iemand da kan vertalen) and just only the nipple over it so that the gas throttle is stuck behind.. So not the screw where you usually “stuck” the nipple with..

              give your msn i can make a paint in msn 😛

              #190971

              Millen
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                My msn Is: Millen1981@hotmail.com

                #190972

                hansieb
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                  Sprocatti is indeed the shit 🙂

                  Its a scootermotor under a ciao.

                  Guess what fcking power you would get with a mhr 70 and variomatic.

                  Also put a yasuni exhaust under it and ofcourse not the HPI from sprocatti but from malossi.

                  Owwww 21+ hp under a ciao lol you cannot drive with full gas if you pull up else you would be launched in the air.

                  It would be something like this:

                  http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=841207691814663352&q=malossi

                  http://www.scooter-freaks.nl/filmpjes/download/driveby/scooter_freaks_nl_erik_bruut.wmv

                  #190975

                  Vespaflappie
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                    Millen :

                    Herr FlicK :
                    malossi carters have a larger inlet

                    I’ve seen that, but doesn’t it have a smaller carburator? I’ve only seen that you can buy 17 mm carburator to the Malossiengine. I don’t understand why they make the inlet larger when they have a smaller carburator? Or is it the cilider with the central port that’s making most of the difference to the Evoengine?

                    The malossi Engine has been sold with a lot of carburators…a 13/13, a 15mm, a 17mm and at the top with a 19mm….I want a larger carb(24 flatside? 21mm?) so i’m seriously thinking about making a custom intake manifold…

                    I think that de 47mm Easy could handle it if wasn’t for the damn smal Deps Port…Luckely the deps also makes good use of the piston but if they together can handle a 24?

                    Fact is that a Malossi Reed Valve system is better then the Polini Evolution Engine, The cilinder at first, 47mm Deps is superiornto the 46mm(duh, look at the ports..:P) The Intake is bigger and better “flowed”, The intake manifold can be adjusted for other carburators(try that with a polini evo:P)..

                    I hope you got enough info 😉

                    Good luck

                    #190976

                    hansieb
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                      Yeah but what is the max to put on the malossi now? is the intake 24mm ?

                      Else if the inlet let you, put the mikuni 28 mm on it 🙂

                      #190977

                      Thijs_DR_Evo
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                        Bigger isn’t always better. A bigger carburettor means lower air-speed velocity, which means loss of torque low down…

                        grz Thijs

                        #190978

                        Millen
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                          If i put my 80cc 47mm DEPS cilinder on my speed engine. Witch sproier should i have? Now i have the polini 46mm and a 68 sproier.

                          #190979

                          Herr Flick
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                            think 70-72

                            46 Pinasco, Malossi RV, Schijfrem, Fox Vario
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                            #190980

                            hansieb
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                              Thijs_DR_Evo :
                              Bigger isn’t always better. A bigger carburettor means lower air-speed velocity, which means loss of torque low down…

                              grz Thijs

                              Vario on it and you will have more torque

                              #190981

                              November Rain
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                                Grooter is niet altijd goeder. Een grotere carburateur middelen laten luchtsnelheid snelheid neer, die verlies van torsie dieptepunt beneden betekent..

                                wtf has got a bigger carb to do with less airspeed???

                                and a vario and more torque??

                                The engine doesn’t get more torque but the way the transmission uses it is different….

                                #190982

                                Thijs_DR_Evo
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                                  Airvelocity is the one thing which makes the mixture in the carburettor. Without any air passing by at a decent speed will result in a poor mixture. If you fit a bigger carburettor, the airspeed will drop, which means the pressure drop around the venturi, where your main jet is fitted, will also decrease. There is an optimum for every setup, but the way I see it, a 28 mm carburettor is too big. High airspeed alsos has the inertia effect, which means if the reed valve wants to shut because of the changing crankcase pressure (because of the rotating crank), it still wants to go forward because of the high speed. Try stopping your moped at once, while driving 40 km/h. No can do ;). Same goes for air speed.
                                  Well, the more mixture you can get in the engine, the more power it will generate. If the airspeed is too low, the throttle response will be sluggish as hell, and the mixture quality also isn’t wat it is supposed to be.
                                  You’re absolutely right about the part about engine torque. The engine doesn’t generate more torque all of the sudden when a variator is fitted. It just transfers the engine torque in a different way, which can be calculated quite easily.
                                  @Millen, a jet = sproeier in Dutch.

                                  grz Thijs

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