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  • #183506

    Millen
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      I want to make a copy of a malossi carter with my speed engine carter and i need a picture of the malossi carter.
      I want to see the engine from the cilinder angle like on this picture. Does anyone have a picture.

      #190950

      Edjuh
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        [url]http://www.mijnalbum.nl/Album=BVONBX6O[/url]
        Here you are!(look to the right in the menu).

        I’m almost ready with my own deps carter copy, made of an original carter:)

        Where are you going to get your deps cilinder?

        #190951

        Millen
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          I bought My 47mm deps cilinder from a guy here in sweden for 90 euro including shipping. It was brand new he sold his ciao before he got the cilinder so i bought it.

          Thanks for the link by the way!

          #190952

          Ndc
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            47mm how many cc is that?

            #190953

            November Rain
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              75cc 🙂

              #190954

              iaccaloco
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                Maybe you should take a look on my own website….

                The Malo engine is the one at the top-left…..;)

                http://www.vespafreak.nl/vespa/enginepage.htm

                Gelukkig is m'n piemel in 't Engels wél dick!
                #190956

                .-{2F4OV}-.

                  What do u mean by making a copy?

                  Do u take a standard carter and edit this one so it’s the same as the malo engine?
                  How can u do this?

                  #190957

                  November Rain
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                    .-{2F4OV}-. :
                    What do u mean by making a copy?

                    Do u take a standard carter and edit this one so it’s the same as the malo engine?
                    How can u do this?

                    Buy 2 or 3 fucked up aluminium cilinders.. maybe you can get em for free, since they are fucked up, melt ‘em up. Make a nice manifold (spruitstuk) of it etc. And there you go. Would be a lot of work but it IS possible I guess. Before I had mij malo I would make one myself too 😛

                    edit:
                    Be sure you know a good welder.. someone who is skilled and CAN weld aluminium

                    o btw.. also make sure the nicasil layers are gone before you go melt 😛 else it would be sucks to weld ‘em onto your carters

                    #190958

                    .-{2F4OV}-.

                      Seems very difficult to me 😀

                      #190959

                      Edjuh
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                        ‘Making a copy’ in my case only means making the cilinder fit(because i have used a piaggio carter instead of a speedengine), and the central port match with the one on the cilinder.

                        I’m NOT making it a reedvalve engine, dunno what millen’s plans are.

                        #190960

                        Millen
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                          Edjuh :
                          ‘Making a copy’ in my case only means making the cilinder fit(because i have used a piaggio carter instead of a speedengine), and the central port match with the one on the cilinder.

                          I’m NOT making it a reedvalve engine, dunno what millen’s plans are.

                          Yeah, that’s exactly what I’m planning to do aswell, not making a reedvalve or anything like that. Maybe I’ll try that some day with a fucked up engine, but not with my brand new SpeedEngine :con

                          Thanks iaccaloco, you website had some great pictures that’s going to be very useful for me! 🙂

                          Btw, since there aren’t many serious Ciao-tuners here in Sweden, I was wondering if the Malossiengine is better than Polini Evo? Cause I’ve had an Evo and planning to buy a new, maybe I should buy a Malossiengine? What do you think?

                          #190961

                          Herr Flick
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                            malossi carters have a larger inlet

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                            #190962

                            Millen
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                              Herr FlicK :
                              malossi carters have a larger inlet

                              I’ve seen that, but doesn’t it have a smaller carburator? I’ve only seen that you can buy 17 mm carburator to the Malossiengine. I don’t understand why they make the inlet larger when they have a smaller carburator? Or is it the cilider with the central port that’s making most of the difference to the Evoengine?

                              #190963

                              hansieb
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                                The deps cilinder is i think way faster then the polini 80cc.

                                Dual exhaust port is real fast and compared to the 80cc polini which is i think way slower then the 80 deps.

                                Also at the malossi engine you can put a bigger carb on.

                                Check http://www.vespa-ciao.nl/forums.php?m=posts&q=2247&n=last#bottom

                                The biggest pro is ofcourse the better cilinder i think. If you want a deps cilinder on a evo engine you need to adjust the hole carters by making a deps port in it. At the malossi it ofcourse standard comes with 1.

                                If i had the money and the will i would definitly go for the malossi engine which i think you can get more HP out then then the evo engine.

                                It also looks like the inlet of the malossi carters is way more then evo engine.

                                A question ends : whats the biggest carb you can put on by adjusting the inlet-manifold (spruitstuk) were the carb is on. Is 20mm the max or you can make it 24mm ?

                                #190964

                                iaccaloco
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                                  Mill, if you’re planning to buy another nice engine for your Vespa……

                                  Be sure to get yourself a Sprocatti-engine….

                                  None of us tried it yet, but i’m véry sure…

                                  Throw your Malossi, Simonini and Polini-engines in the recycle bin, Sprocatti is the shit!!

                                  http://www.sprocatti-motori.com

                                  Gelukkig is m'n piemel in 't Engels wél dick!
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