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  • #145788

    ritze
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      you gotta ask FONS he has one too
      but he is making new puley drive for it but i don`t think it`s ready yet 😛

      it`s one killer transmission 😀

      De budget beun tjoener: geen geld is te duur of het werkt nog niet
      Link naar Mijn collectie / Projecten.
      #145789

      tnerual
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        so.. hup hup, ready for some progress?? or will it stop here 🙁

        #145666

        VeldMuijz
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          Looks like an Drivebelt for a car, distributieriem in het Nl. Nice collectors item. Have some fun with it!

          #145790

          Vincent
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            But special thing about this crank was that it is a kick crank:thumb
            (at least vincent was saying that it was very rare)

            Voor zover bekend is er maar 1 van:P Mits niemand anders hem ook gemaakt heeft.

            #145791

            Martino
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              Dus als ik het goed begrijp is deze krukas zelf geperst tot kick? Of is dit orgineel zo?

              #145532

              speedbuxy
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                Vincent :
                But special thing about this crank was that it is a kick crank:thumb
                (at least vincent was saying that it was very rare)

                Voor zover bekend is er maar 1 van:P Mits niemand anders hem ook gemaakt heeft.

                Dan word ik wel nieuwsgierig want het ziet er zo op het oog standaard uit.
                En anders heb je dat zeer netjes gedaan:thumb

                #145528

                Tonni
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                  Van een ‘gewone’ kruk een kick maken is natuurlijk niet zo moeilijk, je kan immers gewoon de volledige rechterwang laten ompersen van een ‘gewone’ kickkruk.

                  Volgens mij werden de 2-speed Bravo’s in Italië met kickstart , electronische ontsteking en voetrem geleverd. De Duitse exemplaren hebben zeker weten een CP blok zonder kickstart en een terugtraprem aan de trapas. Deze moet je dus ouderwets aanfietsen.

                  I came, I saw, and I forgot what I was doing...
                  #145792

                  Piet30
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                    tnerual :
                    so.. hup hup, ready for some progress?? or will it stop here 🙁

                    hehehe, no, will not stop here. I want to rework a Ciao frame to implement the 2-gear setup.

                    As the gear ratio is very short combined with the small diameter drive belt rolle on krukas I will need to find a solution for a rolle with bigger diameter like 70mm to 75mm.

                    Any suggestions how to make a front rolle with 70mm to 75mm outer diameter are welcome.:thumb

                    #145793

                    Tonni
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                      I think that 50/60 mm will be large enough, 70mm is rather big for this. With that you almost are creating a 1-on-1 distribution.

                      (Maybe you can use a distribution Pulley of some kind from a car to make a new pulley.)

                      I came, I saw, and I forgot what I was doing...
                      #145794

                      ArvidW
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                        What type of belt is it, it looks like it has rounded teeth? Or is it just a plain simple AT(10) belt?

                        If it is just a AT belt finding pulley’s is very easy, just google.

                        Example

                        AW50-4t | 13.13 | Gianelli Citypower | 3.2Nm@6000rpm | 3.0pk@6700rpm
                        Home made engine dyno
                        #145795

                        Piet30
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                          mmmh, I don’t think that 50mm to 60mm is large enough.

                          The status now is: 50mm on krukas and 95mm on gearbox. The gear box ratio in second gear is 9,5:1.

                          After my knowledge about mono ratios I will need a krukas to back wheel turn ratio between 10 (krukas): 1 (backwheel turns)
                          and 12:1 .

                          With a 65mm clutch bell, a 83mm pulley and 8,5:1 gear box ratio it will become 10,5:1 (Krukas:backwheel turns)

                          After that I will need about 70mm to 75mm on krukas to come in region of 11:1 (Krukas:backwheel turns).

                          Arvid, yes, it is a belt with rounded teeth. Thanks for link :thumb

                          #145796

                          Tonni
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                            Ok, my 2-speed had a 35mm front pulley and a 95 on gearbox, that’s why i thought it would be to much.
                            Mine ran 60/65 with a 41mm DR, tuned engine, 13/13 and a homoet exhaust.

                            I came, I saw, and I forgot what I was doing...
                            #145797

                            FonS
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                              Really, 35mm? That’s small :lol My 2-speed is 50 / 95 like Piet’s.
                              I’m getting rid of the original belt drive and creating a new system for it. This will involve a normal V shaped drive belt and adjustable front pulley, so you can “tune” your transmission to your engine.
                              Unfortunately, I made a start on this project, but it will probably take a few more years to finish it 🙁 Because I’m always working on 10 things at once.

                              #145798

                              Piet30
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                                Tonni,wow, did you get problems with your clutch? Was it slipping?

                                Was your second gear ratio also 9,5:1 ?

                                EDIT: Fons, hahaha, that’s the same like me. I also have too many ideas and projects ongoing.:D

                                #145799

                                tnerual
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                                  haha owkay Piet..

                                  Good luck eh!

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