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  • #147499

    rubymax
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      Hello everyone,

      I mount on my set up new GIANNELLI FIRE yesterday. Till now I have SITO PLUS exhaust and top speed was around
      60 km/h.

      – DR EVO 43 with port matching
      – dellorto 13/13 + malossi air filter, widen carb intake
      – 90 mm vario with malossi contra yellow spring
      – electronic ignition
      – 9 g roller weights
      – main jet 66 ( with SITO PLUS 64)

      With new expansion exhaust and a litlle bigger main jet 66 (before 64)is top speed now 55 km/h. Where do I was making mistake. What could be a problem.:?

      Thanks in advance!

      #148278

      niek1992
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        9gr roller weights are a bit on the heavy side for the Gianelli fire. Gianelli fire have more power in a higher RPM band than the Sito Plus.

        Try 6 to 8gram roller weights (if you can, mix them to finetune it).

        #148279

        rubymax
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          Hello,

          At home I have complete of 6 g, 7g and 9 g roller weights sets. Do you suggested me that I maybe mix 3×7 g and 3x9g or ??
          :thumb

          #148280

          niek1992
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            Yeah you could start with mixing 6g with 7g. make sure to spread them evenly. first a 6g roller, then a 7g roller.
            This would make a 6.5g average roller.

            Problably a little bit too light, since the Gianelli Fire isn’t a highRPM exhaust, but definitely a higher RPM exhaust than the Sito.

            #148281

            rubymax
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              Niek1992 thanks for the suggestions.:thumb Is it wise that you mix the 6g and 9g or 7g and 9g roller weights?

              Anyone else have maybe another opinion.

              regards

              #148282

              niek1992
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                i personally think you should go lower with the weights. Friend drives a Polini speedengine with DR43evo, exhaust is a Gianelli original power, and he runs with ~6.5g rollers.

                if i were you i would get my hands on one of those ”adjusting rollersets” (clickable). that way you can pinpoint the best rollers for your specific engine.

                #148283

                Vespaatje
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                  I have exactly the same setup.
                  My topspeed was 79 with main jet 70, gianelli fire, malossi vario and 7 grams roller weights. 😉

                  #148284

                  rubymax
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                    Today I have installed 6x 7g roller weights. Top speed is raising to 61 km/h. Should I go little bit down, maybe 3x 6g and 3x 7g?

                    #148228

                    niek1992
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                      yeah you could. If you keep your eye on your variator while accelerating, you can see if it’s variating too fast, and thus not reaching topspeed.

                      #148242

                      rubymax
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                        Do you mean by this if the roller weights are too light it variates too fast and vice versa too slow with heavier rolls?

                        :con

                        #148241

                        zevenenergie
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                          I think this is wat niek1992 ment to say.

                          If the rolls are very licht, it wil not variate.:no and not reach topspeed.
                          If the rolls are to havy, it wil variate to soon.:no

                          So if you have a tuned setup that has its top power at say 9000 rpm, you need lighter rols than for a standaard setup.(y)

                          A set up whit a lot of power wil need a stronger spring in the cluch. en thus may need heavier rolls.:!
                          but the principle stays the same.:p

                          #148285

                          hansieb
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                            Just wondering, which gears are you using .. 1:11,5?

                            #148286

                            rubymax
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                              Sorry for may late response, I have 1:12.5 gearing. Yesterday I was also put mixed 3x6g and 3x7g rolls (average 6,5 g) but the top speed remains around 60 KM/h (GPS) only the acceleration is maybe a little bit better. I assumed that with my gearing (1:12.5)I’ve already reach the limit:(

                              Do you think I must looking for gearing MALOSSI 1:9 or CIF 1:9.5? What about some bad experiences with CIF gearing?

                              regards

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