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  • #144286

    Cruisarn
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      Hey, i wonder if there are any adapters or ”needlelayers” to fit a 10pin piston on my 12pin eurocilindro crankshaft.
      Maybe something like this:
      http://www.cykelkraft.se/index.php?contentpage=productinformationAsNonPopup&code=SS6-802055
      Cause all deps cylinders i find come with a 10pin piston..

      #145982

      Jarco
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        There are, only dont ask me wehre to buy them.
        Sorry.

        #145983

        Daffy#46

          Could you tell me the measures?

          Then i will check if i can get those Needlelayers 😉

          Edit: I’ve Checked it with these measures:

          Asgap: 10mm
          Outside: 12mm

          I can’t get those Needlelayers, and i think it will be hard to find those, because 1mm on each side is not much. I only can get with an Outside Measure of 14mm, thats 2mm on each side.

          #145985

          MHR
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            For a Malossi crank you need to search for 15x15x10 mm.

            The standard needlelayers for a P12 crank are 15x15x12 mm.

            #145984

            Cruisarn
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              Jarco: Well it’s good to know! thx 🙂

              Daffy#46: It’s 14,9mm on the outside (eurocilindro crank), and it should be 10 on the inside. Dont know the lenght yet tho, will measure tommorow.

              MHR: Great, i take it that it should be the same on eurocilindro? my dad measured it to be 14,9 but either he measured wrong or the layer is supposed to get pressed a bit i guess? Will go ahead and search for 15x15x10 then.
              Thanks a lot!

              #145988

              MHR
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                Please let us know if you find one, there are more people looking for these needlelayers.

                #145989

                Tonni
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                  I’ve also been looking around to find me a needle bearing of this size. I’ve even been to two specialists (whole suppliers) but they also couldn’t find anything of these measurements in the books.
                  The biggest I’ve been able to find was 10 X 14,5 X 15.

                  I’m also still looking but in the meantime I had one of these made in 10 X 15 X 15. It is just as strong and capable of high revs, if made of the right material.

                  I came, I saw, and I forgot what I was doing...
                  #145949

                  Cruisarn
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                    Tonni :
                    I’ve also been looking around to find me a needle bearing of this size. I’ve even been to two specialists (whole suppliers) but they also couldn’t find anything of these measurements in the books.
                    The biggest I’ve been able to find was 10 X 14,5 X 15.

                    I’m also still looking but in the meantime I had one of these made in 10 X 15 X 15. It is just as strong and capable of high revs, if made of the right material.

                    Then it’s 10 inside, 14,5 outside and 15 on the wide?

                    Would those work? thought since it doesnt have the needles.

                    #145990

                    Tonni
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                      This works just like the old type crankshaft from Piaggio. It works just fine if the measurements of the bearing are right and the material is suited for the purpose.
                      The one on the picture is not the right one, it’s just for the illustration. I’ve had mine ‘custom made’.

                      I came, I saw, and I forgot what I was doing...
                      #145991

                      Cruisarn
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                        Tonni :
                        This works just like the old type crankshaft from Piaggio. It works just fine if the measurements of the bearing are right and the material is suited for the purpose.
                        The one on the picture is not the right one, it’s just for the illustration. I’ve had mine ‘custom made’.

                        Hmm if it works as good then it sounds great! What materials are proper to use then?

                        #145992

                        Edjuh
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                          I believe bronze is the right stuff.

                          #145993

                          Cruisarn
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                            Edjuh: Yeah i guess it could work 🙂

                            Olliegasselt: That fit ciao? I posted a stage6 bearing in the first post, but it doesnt fit 🙁

                            #145997

                            Jarco
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                              http://www.ciaocrossclub.it/root/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56665

                              Found this one our italian colleague site.

                              #145999

                              Cruisarn
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                                Jarco :
                                http://www.ciaocrossclub.it/root/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=56665

                                Found this one our italian colleague site.

                                Didn’t understand to much, google translate isn’t that accurate 🙁 But if i understood some right, then he made a adapater so you could use a normal 10 pin, like 2 parts instead of 1? too bad i can’t understand the instructions

                                #145240

                                Jarco
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                                  Its the same as the one they made for Tonni, only this is more like a how to to do it yourself.
                                  The google translations is shitty indeed, but seeing the pictures i cant imagine its realy difficult to do. ( with the right tools. )

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