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  • #144101

    Dawid Pietrzak
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      Hello!
      I’m writing from Poland…
      I’ve got some question about change setup in my Ciao.
      I haven’t vario in my piaggio I’ve got only koppeling and I wanna install variator and koppeling but I’m afraid that rear axis (gear axis) is too short…
      Maybe somebody installed vario and has similar problem ?
      I haven’t vario (I think about Malossi/Polini-which is better) and what I must change also in my Piaggio when I want to install vario+koppeling?
      Greetings form Poland !
      David Pietrzak

      #145051

      Edjuh
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        Hi, welcome!

        You need a special gearcasing with a longer axle!

        The best thing is to find a complete set, and then buy a polini or malossi variator.

        #145052

        Dawid Pietrzak
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          Yes, You have a right.
          I bought second Ciao with koppeling, which has longer axle and variator.
          That was cheaper option, because I payed 100 Euro for this one Ciao.
          FOTO
          Thanks for help.

          #145053

          Michel
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            Wow Poland, I’ve been there a few time with my truck. Nice girls you have back there 😉 I was in Wloclawek in the directon of Gdansk. Nice environment but hell, what a bad roads 😛

            Welcome on this forum :thumb

            If I where you, I would buy the Polini vario because I got theme both and the Malossi is a No Go.
            The Malossi was to wide where the belt comes so that starting your moped will be a bitch because of the slipping belt.

            Polini is way better for mopeds with an high compression and it’s Polini quality. Always good 😛

            Edit: This is my Malossi Variokit. When you look closely, you can see the long axel in the casing.
            It’s a special casing for the long axels. The part on the right is a stock vario.

            #145054

            diac
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              why should you buy a expensive polini vario, when the much cheaper malossi does the same on his setup?

              #145055

              Michel
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                Because I got problems starting any engine with the Malossi vario and the Polini vario doesn’t give me any problem. Even on the Simonini without decompression it will start great. Well I can tell that the Malossi vario that I own was letting the belt slip on every engine.
                And, yes, I know that you can modified that but Polini does it beter for me. That’s my opinion 😉

                #145056

                diac
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                  i don’t experience any slipping, and i have a good 70cc setup.
                  starting is not hard, just use the decompression.

                  i still think its not worth the money.
                  you get the yellow spring with the malossi, otherwise u have to buy that to if you want a stronger setup.
                  the standard rollers u get are almost everytime unusefull.

                  #145057

                  Vincent Vario
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                    I think you should buy a origional vario-set first.

                    With a origional setup will it work to, i have it on my ciao and it drives nice. If you realy want speed, you can better chouse the polini vario. It is the best one.

                    #145179

                    terrydean
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                      i’ve used both the malossi variator (lots of belt slip and hard to start) and the polini. i also prefer the polini. i stripped out the inner shaft that the outer variator cheek slides on due to the massive torque my motor makes, the polini one is harder. that’s the big reason i like the polini better.. and that it starts easier.

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